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Villainous stuff

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:22 pm
by eridani
What makes a good game villain? Who are the best villains you have come across in games? Whch really didn't make the mark?

Re: Villainous stuff

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:02 pm
by Huskyy
If you have got a heart,don't be a villain! +::biggrin A good villain( +::lol ) must be heartless.Not necessary bloody,but should destroy things precious to the good people with cool head and without mercy.And never give up!

Re: Villainous stuff

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:19 am
by Sly Boots
When it comes to any story, I find the villain and the sidekick to be the most interesting characters. Gaming has seen plenty of fantastic villains such as Kefka (FF6), Sephiroth (perhaps a little overhyped by fanboys/girls but still a nicely developed villain), Luca Blight (Suikoden 2), Jon Irenicus (Baldur's Gate 2) and more. My personal favorite video game villain is probably Albedo from the Xenosaga trilogy.

I tend to like Shakespearean villains. Someone like Iago from Othello is a pretty complex character.

I'm not fond of surprise villains who just suddenly appear at the end of the game after not having been there at all. I couldn't stand Ultimecia, but then again FF8 never had a strong villain to begin with. In FF9, Kuja was a fantastic villain but how many people remember that final battle you fight after Trance Kuja?

There are so many qualities that make a great villain, but I think the most important is charisma. A good villain is one whose charisma can influence the masses. Think about it. The greatest real-life villains in world history were also some of the most charismatic people in history and were able to brainwash even strong-willed people into subservience.

In gaming, a good villain makes me want to play the game as them instead of the heroes. I don't care to play as Cloud, Vincent, Zack, or any of those people in FF7 and its offshoots. I want to play from beginning to end as Sephiroth, kick Cloud's hiney, and watch the world burn.

Re: Villainous stuff

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:55 am
by Harlow
I agree with Sly Boots on the subject of charisma.

Also, to me the most interesting villains are the ones that, if not for a few hard knocks and wrong turns in life, could have been one of the "good guys," like me or you. I also like female villains because they're not that common.

Re: Villainous stuff

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:46 am
by marphy
I like villians that jump out and surprise you! Especially if they were your friend for the entire game and then they're your enemy. I love when a game maker keeps throwing me a loop - "This is the villian - oops! Nevermind, he's just a minion of the tru villian! Muahahahahaha!" (i.e.: Eternal Eden +::Thumbup )

Keep me thinking, Game Makers. Keep me thinking. +::biggrin

SPOILER!!!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:51 pm
by Ludicus
I like villains who make you HATE them.Usually by killing some friend of the main character,like Dekker from Soldier of Fortune,who killed
Spoiler: show
Hawk
Well...he was useless anyway.

Re: Villainous stuff

PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:58 pm
by Sly Boots
I recall this one quote by Marilyn Manson: "I've just always asserted myself as a villain because the villain in any walk of life is the person who refuses to follow blindly and always wants to question things."

And I think that's a big reason why villains and anti-heroes are compelling.

Marphy- that's one thing I liked about Eternal Eden as well. It threw a massive red herring as to who the villain was. I like to think I'm an RPG veteran, but I fell for that red herring.