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mysterious creature

Posted:
Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:21 am
by woolf223
i got a big problem for the mystireous creature(one of the sidequests),in the walkthrough it´s written firtst turn try to make up to 7000 damage and than in one single blow 3000 damage,for getting the nahadanaha needle sword.i tried it a few times up to now,but always failed.tried heroism weapon boost and so on,explosive mushrooms but nithing worked.is it real worth the try for getting the sword.is it really so special?my characters are lv.38 to 41 and i´m unable to beat this thing in two tries,maybe three.

Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:27 pm
by Kale
The Nahanaha needle is a powerful sword for that point in the game. It's AT value does wane off towards the end of the game though. The main staying feature it has is that it is the only way to inflict 'lichea', the strongest form of poison in the game. I recall at least one of the tougher bosses in LF2 was immune to every kind of poison but lichea, and the effect just demolished them. It also has a bit more cross-class compatibility than others; that is to say, characters who don't use swords as a primary weapon type might still be able to use the Nahanaha Needle. For a couple LF2 characters, it was their best weapon for awhile into the game.
That's about it. It's certainly not required, or really recommended; unless you're going for absolute 100% completion. That's partially why it's in a spoiler tag, because it's a bit of an 'aside' that not everyone is going to want to take the time to get.
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One thing though; you don't need to inflict 7000 damage on the first turn. You just need to make sure you deal less than ~7000 damage. If you deal 7200 damage for example, it will cause it to transform, and you lose your chance to get the sword.
So damage it up to about ~7000 Hp worth in as many combat rounds as it takes, then boost Random with everything you have including legend slayer, and just use Fury. If that doesn't work there's not much else you can do. Even if it does work, the item drop rate has got to be less than 20%, so you'll likely have to do it several times before you get the sword.
Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:58 am
by ShadowBlade
Kale wrote:The main staying feature it has is that it is the only way to inflict 'lichea', the strongest form of poison in the game.
If I remember correctly the Mist of Xen spell can also inflict lichea, although I forgot where you can find it.

Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:28 pm
by woolf223
for kale
thanks for discribing the why and whats with the nadanahala,ok i tried it maybe 30 35 times and was unable to do it,so i forgot about this and finished this quest without this sword,doesn´t matter now.but a very big thankyou to you kale for this detailed information
and to shadowblade
the xen mist skill can be learned by luci in the second lf,i think it´s a book for a quest finishing,but not sure.thanks to you too

Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:47 pm
by ShadowBlade
I'm pretty sure it's also in LF1 though, I remember using it in the final quest. I just can't remember where I got it, unfortunately.

Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:21 pm
by woolf223
hiiiiiii there
after kale´s writing,i walked back to this safefile bevore entering the cave of the creature.tried it and tried it,but didn´t work.than i had the great idea

but ashkabar in the team.and at the first turn he made a damage about 5.700 and the creature without puff into millipuffs,was puffed up and gone,but no nadanalahea sword.so i tried it about ten times more and here it is, the mysterious sword - ultimate weapon or what else

ok enough with this. i have the sword and thanks to the replying of kale and shadow.

Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:03 pm
by Kale
Ah, well I suppose I should actually use the skill books before I make statements like that then. I'm a bit of a purist though; I just don't use skill books, stat boost items, etc. Helps keep the game a bit more difficult that way too.
Congrats on getting the sword, it should serve you well throughout the rest of the series.
Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:32 pm
by woolf223
i played the two lf´s ,lf 1 lf 2,bevore i sayed to myself try it one more time,and play them.yet i´m lf1 playing,and in adretana right now,and when i finished the first i go up to the second and play it also one more time,for something i missed at the first round playing the two series of lf,and something i didn´t found or get in the first round,i hope i get it now.two or three things i´ve been missing as far as i´m now at lf1 in adretana.for example,the nahadanala (without your help kale)i think i didn´t get it,at the second time too.maybe,i try a third round if i finished lf1 and lf2,or one more dreamscape or millenium.... ??? don´t know it by now.see you

Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:03 am
by anu rulz
at what levels shud random and gang be to be able to kill the mysterious creature?rt now,random is at 40,sarah at 38,rest are at 35-36 except sandy and ashkbar who are at 30..

Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:06 am
by seeliewight
I got Random to level 45 - to use Fury, and Sarah to level 47 - to use Indinera Calling, and Cocka-Cocka to level 48 - Rock-Rock.
Took me 15 attempts to kill the Magga Nahanaha without getting it to:
- become millipuves
- kill my 4th party member (Brussian or Wendala, I kept changing)
- drop the sword
I just did: Metallist Curse + Fury, Indinera Calling, Rock-Rock
Two or three rounds later, it was dead.
Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:20 am
by anu rulz
thanx a ton..forget getting the sword,i cudnt even survive..now i know y..i gotta long way to go..ok the best way to level up is the millipuff nest rt?or any other place?
Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:20 pm
by seeliewight
Millipuf nest is good. Also Wanku hole - the bulls there are weak to death spells. Be sure to buy many seed pendants from the Guild of War and use them, if they are available.
Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:35 pm
by anu rulz
am sorry for bugging everyone bt cn anyone tell me what level shud askhbar be if am to get more thn 3000 frm him in one hit?random wid fury also dsnt go beyond 500 for me..and 1000 wid hero spell..askhbar rt now hits 1300 or so at level 36.. now i dnt get killed thankfully bt millipuffs are the prob now..

Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:38 pm
by loof123
For millipuves have a millipuf killer. Like Cocka when he acquires a new beak or Sarah or Wendala with Millipuf X-Bow.
Re: mysterious creature

Posted:
Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:38 am
by seeliewight
anu rulz wrote:am sorry for bugging everyone bt cn anyone tell me what level shud askhbar be if am to get more thn 3000 frm him in one hit?random wid fury also dsnt go beyond 500 for me..and 1000 wid hero spell..askhbar rt now hits 1300 or so at level 36.. now i dnt get killed thankfully bt millipuffs are the prob now..

Best way for Askhbar is to equip the Orb of Chaos on him.
If you have done the Witch Coven quests, you can zombify him.
Then he can kill Heavenly Dragons in one hit
